"Street art's the real future of sendin' a message. Makin' people think or brightenin' the neighborhood with somethin' cool. That's where the real art's at. You don't gotta sell it to nobody."

He pulls out his phone so he can pull up a picture of some of his work. "You done any stencil work before? I can teach ya."

When he hands over the phone, it's a piece on an anonymous brick wall of a wild jungle of trees, all bright colors overtaking each other.