"Oh, I certainly was. I don't know if she's trying to be on the straight and narrow now, but back then she certainly wasn't. Ruthless stuff. She has a savage history with political prisoners." He pretends to be unnerved, as if he can't even fully comprehend it, but it's definitely clear that he's putting on a show.
"But I want to know, really, is how much she's actually changed since then. If at all."
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"But I want to know, really, is how much she's actually changed since then. If at all."