"We'd have to be all sly-like sometimes. Don't wanna cause Katherine any more trouble." Besides, if she doesn't know, then she can't tell them not to, right? It's sound logic. "Don't shit where you eat."

They need changes from inside and out. Some things are about getting the pack more legitimacy and some are about bringing the others down to their level. He's starting to think fighting dirty might be the only way to fight.