"Sometimes you have to get your hands a little dirty," Natasha says. She's not going to pretend any personal moral superiority. She doesn't see it as hypocrisy; just pragmatism.

"Harris's style of leadership wasn't any more sustainable than the bloodshed was. Something would have given one way or another."

She sips her drink, shaking her head slightly.

"For what it's worth, I'm glad you came out on Jean-Claude's side."